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Noob starting questions

by Neatpete » May 24th, 2015, 3:30 am

Hi there, thanks in advance for the help.

I finally got my N3 books and some starting packs that scorch reccomended on his starting with pan-o write up, but I can't even seem to find the rules for some of these units :/ not a great start.

Blister "guarda de assalto"
What unit is this in the n3 books? I see Aquila guard but they don't have a spitfire option and the blister has that choice.

And what about auxbots? Can't seem to find any details about them...

How about the "auxilia" box that also contains the auxbots?

So confused, and probably really stupid questions, thanks for the help!
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Re: Noob starting questions

by H1ghlander » May 24th, 2015, 5:58 am

The core rulebook only contains core rule units, not those published in Human Sphere or Campaign Paradiso. However, CB has published all unit profiles, both in pdf format, and through Army V.

pdf - http://dy4jtm76r0qih.cloudfront.net/archivo/descargas/[ENG]_Unit_Profiles.pdf
Army V - http://www.infinitythegame.com/army/
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Re: Noob starting questions

by Neatpete » May 24th, 2015, 6:47 am

Thanks.

Was paradiso published after N3? Or is all the paradiso stuff compatable with N3?

I assumed a new rule set would trigger new stat profiles but maybe that was a foolish assumption.

I'll check out the docs :)
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Re: Noob starting questions

by Scorch » May 24th, 2015, 9:00 am

Paradiso came about 2 years before N3. I haven't seen anyone try the campaign since N3, so couldn't tell you how it works in the new system
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Re: Noob starting questions

by Stiopa » May 24th, 2015, 10:59 am

Our group tried Paradiso recently. It's mostly compatible in regards to rules. Unit stats are a bit different matter.

Edition change didn't trigger widescale stat change, there were only few units that got a complete makeover. The rest was either left as is with only their point cost changed, or got some minor tweaks - a few points of CC here, a point of WIP there, some minor skill added, like Kinematika. In effect all old profiles from Human Sphere and Paradiso are invalidated, but rules from those books remain in effect.
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Re: Noob starting questions

by Neatpete » May 26th, 2015, 3:55 pm

Thanks folks. I see the new N3 Human sphere book announcement which makes sense. I look forward to that release to help me keep things sorted.

I guess I'm a bit disappointed in the core book of the N3 release. Not sure why they released a half ass, partial army book? I wont worry it about it too much ;)
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Re: Noob starting questions

by Errhile » May 26th, 2015, 4:10 pm

:didactic: There is nothing such as an "army book" in Infinity. There never was. :didactic:

Besides, if they made up a single-volume release combining N3 rulebook, Human Sphere and Paradiso, it would be an unwieldy mammoth of a book (even N3 rulebook and corebook were separated). So I kinda dig why they are going for an updated HS, covering the Paradiso units / rules (and likely some new toys, too).

Also, please keep in mind that it was, is and likely will remain the CB business model to give away the rules for free. You don't want to buy it, you don't have to. The company provides you with a free download.
So I really can't find a reason for grumbling here (and I own 1ed rulebook, HS, Paradiso, Artbook #1, N3 and I guess I'll buy myself the new Human Sphere N3).

You want, you buy it.
You don't want to, you do not buy it.

It isn't going to affect your ability to play the game either way. Because you will have access to rules and updated unit profiles in either case.
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Re: Noob starting questions

by Neatpete » May 26th, 2015, 5:03 pm

Not grumbling about buying anything, just seemed confusing and wasteful to a new player to print a book that is immedietly incomplete. But whatever, I guess most games do it. The question was already answered thanks.

The fact the army builder has all the most recent stats is very cool and I'll look to that for my stats
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Re: Noob starting questions

by tdc » August 12th, 2015, 4:11 pm

Quite simply, space and time. The current rule book is a monster. Human sphere will be the same size. N3 would have had to have waited an extra year or so if you wanted to get all the rules at once. It would also have been twice the size and twice the price...
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Re: Noob starting questions

by WookieeGunner » August 12th, 2015, 11:08 pm

Also, the army builder is the official stats for tournament play, so the stats in the rule book and pdf are reference guudes.
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Re: Noob starting questions

by hypnotic » May 19th, 2016, 10:49 am

Is MO knights fireteam Core Especial (magisters + hospitaliers/santiago) counts towards core firteam limit? In other words can I take one core team and one core escpecial team in a single list?
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Re: Noob starting questions

by Errhile » May 19th, 2016, 11:00 am

Yes, and the same is true for other Core Special Fireteams.
Core "Special" is a way of notivcing you it goes around the "only the same unit" restricition on Fireteam. But it is still your one Core Fireteam.
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Re: Noob starting questions

by Pierzasty » May 19th, 2016, 11:01 am

Special Core is still Core, so no, you can't take two core teams.
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