Operation Icestorm

[MarcoSkoll]

That might be flawed by some units belonging to more than one sectorial.

[McNamara]

mhh. You'r right. But why place does empty points there than?

[Tox]

One for Cube/No Cube (empty)
One for Regular/Irregular
One for Impetuos/Frenzy/Empty
One for Linkable

[Berjiz]

One for Cube/No Cube (empty)
One for Regular/Irregular
One for Impetuos/Frenzy/Empty
One for Linkable

One for courage would awesome, it would simplify a lot of rules.

[macfergusson]

New rule from Bostria in the BoW video today:

Short Skill "Inaction", looks like a "do nothing" short skill designed to provoke AROs without giving an indication of what you are planning to do with the second half of your order. Fake out AROs to end up with Normal Rolls on the Short Skill you care about?

[IJW Wartrader]

Otherwise known as the 'I move 1mm that way and back' shuffle.

[macfergusson]

Otherwise known as the 'I move 1mm that way and back' shuffle.

But it has a name now! Like, all official and stuff!

[Willowran]

I dunno if anyone has covered this yet, but what does the "S" stat mean at the end of the new stat lines? IE: Two wounds, and two "S"?

[macfergusson]

I dunno if anyone has covered this yet, but what does the "S" stat mean at the end of the new stat lines? IE: Two wounds, and two "S"?

"Size" or "Silhouette"

As in which template to use for checking LoF.

[Claudius Sol]

So... Anyone notice that new classification for the Mobile Brigada and ORC?

IP

Any ideas on what it stands for?

[macfergusson]

So... Anyone notice that new classification for the Mobile Brigada and ORC?

IP

Any ideas on what it stands for?

HI in spanish?

[Ursun]

yep, infanteria pesada IP = ehavy infantery

[Claudius Sol]

So why is the Reverend Healer labeled as HI? The Grenzer is MI and the Alguaciles are labeled as LI.

Wasn't there supposed to be a new troop type in N3?

[Ursun]

That´s just a labeling mistake, Cb seems to be so focused on bringing N3 to a top notch, clear as possible, mistake free ruleset that they messed up OI a little bit

[CoxJul]

Combat Jump n3 explained by Carlos (CB) at 16:00 in latest BoW video - along with Loss of Lieutenant, new Visor levels (vs Camo) & Aggresive Infiltration
http://www.beastsofwar.com/infinity/3rd ... -revealed/

[EmraldArcher]

I've a question for anyone who watched Carlos and Killian play the 5th mission from the O:I book.

Carlos had a troop (ORC maybe?) behind the objective building and, 2 or 3 times, moved him to the corner, shot at Killian's models and then moved back with one order. How did he manage this?

Wouldn't it be: Short order move to corner>short order fire at sniper>end of order? It seems he somehow went: Short order move to corner>short order fire at sniper>somehow move again>end of order.

What am I missing?

[Icchan]

I've a question for anyone who watched Carlos and Killian play the 5th mission from the O:I book.

Carlos had a troop (ORC maybe?) behind the objective building and, 2 or 3 times, moved him to the corner, shot at Killian's models and then moved back with one order. How did he manage this?

Wouldn't it be: Short order move to corner>short order fire at sniper>end of order? It seems he somehow went: Short order move to corner>short order fire at sniper>somehow move again>end of order.

What am I missing?

He moved back and forth with his first move short skill, then with the second ballistic short skill he declared that the shot happens when he's at the corner. Everything within an order happens simultaneously, which makes that possible. You can always choose the point in movement where your other short skill occurs.

[EmraldArcher]

I've a question for anyone who watched Carlos and Killian play the 5th mission from the O:I book.

Carlos had a troop (ORC maybe?) behind the objective building and, 2 or 3 times, moved him to the corner, shot at Killian's models and then moved back with one order. How did he manage this?

Wouldn't it be: Short order move to corner>short order fire at sniper>end of order? It seems he somehow went: Short order move to corner>short order fire at sniper>somehow move again>end of order.

What am I missing?

He moved back and forth with his first move short skill, then with the second ballistic short skill he declared that the shot happens when he's at the corner. Everything within an order happens simultaneously, which makes that possible. You can always choose the point in movement where your other short skill occurs.

So even though you announce them as two separate actions, if the second is a ranged attack, it can happen at any point during the movement of the first skill? Cool, thanks.

[IJW Wartrader]

Yes, that's it exactly.

[Willowran]

Just a clarification, as an extension of that, if at any point during a movement your opponent does not have cover, i'm assuming you can shoot accordingly?

[chaos11]

Just a clarification, as an extension of that, if at any point during a movement your opponent does not have cover, i'm assuming you can shoot accordingly?

I think so? From what was said in the O:I 'Alguaciles vs Fusiliers' video.

[IJW Wartrader]

Yes. The active turn can shoot from any point along their movement but they can also [bi]be shot[/i] at any point.

[Redwulfe]

Another way the move to corner shoot move away scenario can happen is if you take an impact you can intentionally fail your guts check to move back. I prefer to use actual movement to peek/shoot around corners though as you can't guarantee the impact to give you the guts check and the impact could kill you.

Red

[Claudius Sol]

Another way the move to corner shoot move away scenario can happen is if you take an impact you can intentionally fail your guts check to move back. I prefer to use actual movement to peek/shoot around corners though as you can't guarantee the impact to give you the guts check and the impact could kill you.

Red

Wouldn't this also rely on you losing the FtF?

The way I see it, no point in risking that particular maneuver if you have the distance available in your regular move.


Also, side note: you can shoot at any point of your travel unless you used the skill jump or climb. Special exceptions for if you have the advanced skill for the respective skills.

[Lampyridae]

New BoW video up. Very little of consequence except an allusion that Hacking will have a lot more functions. Killian also mentions Jotum B(T)S of 12?

[IJW Wartrader]

BTS9 according to the Icestorm booklet.

[Errhile]

My guts feeling was he was talking about across-the-board PanO having Ballistic Skill of 12 at least, making it hard to punch thorough close enough to hack the Jotum.

[chaos11]

My guts feeling was he was talking about across-the-board PanO having Ballistic Skill of 12 at least, making it hard to punch thorough close enough to hack the Jotum.

Haven't they always had BS 12 at least?

[Errhile]

Yes, they did. And when it comes down to straight shooting, it still gives them an edge...

[The Revanchist]

As far as Infiltration goes, you can go past the halfway point. The area between the halfway and the enemy Deployment Zone is called 'Aggressive Infiltration'. The penalty is a flat -3, and if you fail you wind up in your deployment zone, and you forfeit your mine if you have Minelayer (you don't lose the mine, just can't deploy one during deployment).

If I had to guess, Superior Infiltration won't take the penalty for Aggressive Infiltration, and Inferior Infiltration will treat all areas as Aggressive. That's pure speculation on my part, but would be straight forward.

AD3 is going to be a second roll for scatter after the PH test. If you fail you scatter 16" in the direction based on the second roll. All dispersion for AD3 is supposed to be 16" to remove the calculations. AD3 does not specifically put you into your Deployment Zone (unless you scatter there, of course).

It's kind of hard to catch, but the BS 12 that Killian was referring to was blocking with his Fusiliers to keep the Interventors out of range.