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GenCon seminar intell

by Scorch » August 16th, 2014, 5:52 pm

In a minute or two we'll combine all the intel from the seminar in this thread! :) what we know so far (thanks to MayaCast and the Krug, who are present! Our own Claudius Sol will provide us with better quality images soon I hope!)
NOW WITH REAL NEWS
September releases
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Profiles for the :tohaa:Kotail (Regular, Superjump, Holoechoes lvl2, MOV6-4, Symbiont) and the :yujing:Zu Yong (Regular, Kinematica L1, 2W, 13BS, HMG optional Automed)
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Weapon ranges
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New CA Starter with weird looking sith Tohaa
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More CA units
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USArianda Grunts
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Close combat skills chart
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Maghariba Guard Resculpt anyone? Well I'll have one, thank you!
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Tiger Soldiers Resculpt
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Already shown at FicZone, but again Yan Huo
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Squalo Render
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Jannisarie HMG render
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New Speculo Killer
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New Kum (September release Kasyum Beg)
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New Hassassin Unit, without Hassassin helmet, speculated to have some form of MSV
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Varuna?! More art will follow soon I hope!
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NOW SOME REAL NEWS

Breaker: Viral (BTS) with 2 bursts
Forward Observer: Still the same, but a burst two and +3 to any model attacking.
Dodge out of Line of Sight of grenades, GMLs, etc.
Multi Rifle less confusing
CC: chart because everybody understands charts according to Bostria :lol:
CC skill above twenty = roll dice, and add the number that you have above twenty to the result. Father Knight has 23, so roll, +3 to result. Rolling 20 = critical hit. +1 Burst to every model in base to base contact with target. CC sound to become pretty valuable in N3. :toot:
Assault modifier is -3.
Skills like Ikhol will be added to the chart. No more looking for rules, FAQs.. just look at the chart, and you know what to do!
THEY DO NOT STACK and each CC-attack you can choose which lvl to take. Tactical....
Criticals: Critical hits nullify each other in N3.

Hacker rules is 'saved for later', but are confirmed to have some similar chart system. 'lots of programs' arranged similar to chart. SOunds like Icebreaker and EVO is bigger in N3. *yes*

Recap CC - easier to get into CC, critical hits are higher, even for cheap troops. More control of the situation.
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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by macfergusson » August 16th, 2014, 5:56 pm

And something on CC changes too, I believe...
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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by Scorch » August 16th, 2014, 6:26 pm

First pics posted!
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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by jake » August 16th, 2014, 6:26 pm

Huh. They really like that clenched fist, raised gun pose. I kinda wish they'd stop doing that. It sometimes looks okay, but it also often looks silly, and it's becoming very common.
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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by Mothman » August 16th, 2014, 6:28 pm

love all of it except the new M guard, it feels over designed, messy and lacks the charm of the old one

Tohaa traiters looks awesome
hmmmm no new nomad news, was hoping for a sneak at new securitate
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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by McNamara » August 16th, 2014, 6:31 pm

Really nice news! I am so pleased!


Tiger Soldiers look boss! With Spitfire! Damn! Any news if they get a second regiment?


And I am soo damn happy I didn't start Tohaa! With CA getting the really cool duds. Awesome opportunities for conversions too! I already got some Chaksa for my Shasvastii, cause they looked so nice, but now they get official support. Yeah! :toot:


Now the things I don't like: Magariba looks a bit lame, I guess Scorpion makes sense for a desert tank, but meh. And whats up with that fist pose on the Squallo? Janissary? Mobile Brigada? Its a really lame pose, and they do it 3 times in a row!

And no Charontid in the the CA Starter? :(
I guess this might mean that the Charontid might get bigger and on a 40mm base like the Anathematic, would kinda make sense at least.
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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by Scorch » August 16th, 2014, 6:33 pm

Mothman wrote:love all of it except the new M guard, it feels over designed, messy and lacks the charm of the old one

Tohaa traiters looks awesome
hmmmm no new nomad news, was hoping for a sneak at new securitate


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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by chaos11 » August 16th, 2014, 6:35 pm

That new Maghariba Guard is incredible!
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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by McNamara » August 16th, 2014, 6:36 pm

Probably the month after that.

And are does US Adriana guys really called Grunts? How awesome would that be please? :lol:
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by Errhile » August 16th, 2014, 6:36 pm

Actually I like the Maghariba resculpt. It has the GitS SAC vibe, it finally makes sense with weapon placement (the old one had "pincers" - low mount, lousy field of fire, now it is kinda turreted). It also looks to me like it might get a weapon swap - this cannister on the opposite side of the tail / turret isn't very likely to be a HGL, and no way it could be a HFT.
If it was a real tank, I'd say it is a bank of smoke grenade launchers...

Plus, it might actually be able to fit on a 55mm base, who knows...?
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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by jake » August 16th, 2014, 6:37 pm

Yeah, I really like the new Maghariba too.
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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by Scorch » August 16th, 2014, 6:38 pm

Errhile wrote:
Plus, it might actually be able to fit on a 55mm base, who knows...?


I agree with you! My initial reaction was something like "OMGFBBQ! I must HAVE THAT!' and 55mm would make it a totally different unit. CD-size is too big, but I wouldn't mind 60, just to keep it 'BIG'. LOVE IT! I'm saving for that one! <3
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by Harlekin » August 16th, 2014, 6:42 pm

Cool stuff.
I'm not too fond of Dark Eld... er,Tohaa... but hey, the models look quite ok.
The Maghariba is awesome. Squalo quite disappointing - the shoulder weapon thing just looks stupid.
New CC could be quite cool - not too hard but getting an edge.
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Re: GenCon seminar intell

by McNamara » August 16th, 2014, 6:44 pm

And Hassassines get a new unit, I am not playing them, but it looks like it could be an Link Team, so I am really happy for those poor Hassassin players out there! :glomp:

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Not sure about that Speculo, might turn out ok, or a total fail for me. Its nice that Shas get some love too though. :mrgreen:
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by chaos11 » August 16th, 2014, 6:45 pm

I really like the new CA stuff, the guy with the sword looks like a Sith Lord. And that Maghariba is awesome, and I liked the old one
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by Poseidal » August 16th, 2014, 6:51 pm

Martial Arts still stack like normal with skills right?
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by Bladerunner_35 » August 16th, 2014, 6:54 pm

I've been waiting (hoping) for a resculpt of the Maghariba! I quite like the look of it but final verdict will have to wait. It does look a bit....cramped?

I agree the Squalo is a bit....lackluster.

I also agree the clenched fist is overdone but it works on the Jann! I can see an ammo-belt-over-the-arm-Rambo-style-conversion.

Was leaning towards MAF/CA as my second force and these pics might just seal the deal.

A big thank you to everyone taking the time to keep us non-cons updated!
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by Darnok » August 16th, 2014, 7:01 pm

*squeee!!!* :mrgreen:

Damn, that was totally worth the wait! Blown away by some of those upcoming things! Exciting times ahead of us for sure!

Where to start? I think my personal favourites are the new CA artworks. I will not be able to resist the EI with that starter! And I don't know exactly why, but those Unidrons have a strange Babylon5/Vorlon vibe for me.

Those USAriadna Grunts could very well pull me into Ariadna too. Love 'em! I mean, money is overrated, right? :?

Same for the new Maghariba Guard (spectacular) and the Tiger Soldier (awesome!). Anybody fancy a kidney?

And that Varuna artwork has me thirsting for more. Curious I just got me some models for a Varuna themed list. :mrgreen:
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by jake » August 16th, 2014, 7:03 pm

Any Morat news?
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by m4xwell » August 16th, 2014, 7:05 pm

Come on now Jake! Have you not seen kornak yet?
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by McNamara » August 16th, 2014, 7:06 pm

So any other news besides the pictures yet?
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by jake » August 16th, 2014, 7:08 pm

m4xwell wrote:Come on now Jake! Have you not seen kornak yet?


I meant about the Morat rule, or unit changes. I am excited about Kornak, even if I have the sinking feeling that he'll be another model made out of recycled parts with a new head. But even that could still be cool if done well.
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by Harlekin » August 16th, 2014, 7:08 pm

McNamara wrote:So any other news besides the pictures yet?

Yes. Share the news, please.
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by ski2060 » August 16th, 2014, 7:09 pm

Reported that Martial Arts are not inclusive for levels. You pick the level you want to use out of your available levels and get the benefit for that level.
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by m4xwell » August 16th, 2014, 7:12 pm

ski2060 wrote:Reported that Martial Arts are not inclusive for levels. You pick the level you want to use out of your available levels and get the benefit for that level.

Can this be true? Surely they will stack? Kinda not that great otherwise. :cry:
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by IJW Wartrader » August 16th, 2014, 7:15 pm

We haven't seen what other changes there are for CC specialists. If they get the same kind of CC values as the Spetsnaz (CC20) or Father-Knight (CC23) then that +3/-3 MA3 modifier is going to be freaking scary.
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by m4xwell » August 16th, 2014, 7:15 pm

jake wrote:I meant about the Morat rule, or unit changes. I am excited about Kornak, even if I have the sinking feeling that he'll be another model made out of recycled parts with a new head. But even that could still be cool if done well.


On closer look I think he'll be just that. I recognise pretty much everything in the art as having come before. Hopefully he'll look good in the flesh.
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by Spears » August 16th, 2014, 7:17 pm

Loving the sepsitored tohaa stuff.
Unidrons dont look to have combi rifles.
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by Hero of Man » August 16th, 2014, 7:17 pm

Current Must Haves: USAriadna Grunts, Margarita Mk II, and Hassassin Govad. Close runner up are those Invincibles with shoulder cannons.
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by jake » August 16th, 2014, 7:18 pm

m4xwell wrote:
jake wrote:I meant about the Morat rule, or unit changes. I am excited about Kornak, even if I have the sinking feeling that he'll be another model made out of recycled parts with a new head. But even that could still be cool if done well.


On closer look I think he'll be just that. I recognise pretty much everything in the art as having come before. Hopefully he'll look good in the flesh.


I hope so. I was really disappointed by the Suryat (although I think I'm in the minority).
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