What do you need in order to field the big suits viably?

[Arachas]

Buddy of mine wants to get into the game. He likes the big Yu-Jing suits, such as the Yan Huo, Hac Tao, Tiger Soldier and Su Jian (new model).

Let's say we start playing at 200 pts, no ITS, just scenario play (is that even viable these days?). What would he need to field next to these monsters (not necessarily all of them at once, Yan Huo and Su Jian would be highest up the want list) in order to make the list easy to play and learn with.

Thanks!!

[Scorch]

http://www.data-sphere.net/the-20x20-in ... rsion-2-0/

Go here for some good scenarios. Data Sphere's own 20x20, made by Prophet of Doom. On the suits, I have no intel right now as N3 is around the corner which might flip the whole thing in a different direction. I hope some YJ players can give more insight.

[MARC C]

Buddy of mine wants to get into the game. He likes the big Yu-Jing suits, such as the Yan Huo, Hac Tao, Tiger Soldier and Su Jian (new model).

Let's say we start playing at 200 pts, no ITS, just scenario play (is that even viable these days?). What would he need to field next to these monsters (not necessarily all of them at once, Yan Huo and Su Jian would be highest up the want list) in order to make the list easy to play and learn with.

Thanks!!

He needs a Hacker to activate the Fairy Dust program to make his HI suits harder to hack.

[ARCangel]

I second both the 20x20, though I'm partial to YAMS, and the Hacker suggestions. Another thing he's going to need is a decent order pool to draw from.

[Darek_CTR]

You need:
a) Big suits (called TAGs). Preferably no more than one, at least in the beginning.
b) Other stuff. To have at least 10 models.

Then just play and test it. If you find that you get killed often, try bringing an engineer to fix the TAG (or a doctor in the case of YanHuo - if it has Wounds, you heal it, if it has STR points, you fix it).

[VisOne]

A quick list would look like this.

2 boxsets and 1 blister as a starting force.

Yu Jing
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9
CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
DOMARU Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 25)
SHÀNG JÍ Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 45)
YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 54)
Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)

2.5 SWC | 200 Points

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Because the YĀN HUǑ w/ HRMC is one of the more expensive options you could easily run that list more less as is swapping it out for the SÙ-JIÀN w/ Boarding Shotgun or the YĀN HUǑ w/ Multi HMG or 2 x ML all cost 54 points and 2 SWC or under.

Its not an amazing force but its a good place to start not hugely expensive to buy and none of the models are terrible the starter is old but not bad.

[VisOne]

The other option.

3 x Boxsets and 1 Blister

Yu Jing
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GROUP 1 10 4
DOMARU Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 25)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 54)
SÙ-JIÀN Heavy Shotgun, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 54)

GROUP 2 1
ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)

2.5 SWC | 199 Points

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Has to proxy the standard Celestial Guard from the starter box as a Kuang Shi Control Device one but thats hardly a big deal and this way he gets 2 of his favourite models. Sadly can't run both the HRMC and ML variants or the Spitfire and either one due to SWC limitations at 200 points but as soon as you go to 250 or 300 he can!

There are real down sides to this other than cost and thats learning more rules and how to control your extremely impetuous Kuang Shi's otherwise that 9 point regular order list I put up earlier is going to be much much more attractive.

[Grauenacht]

The O-yoroi will get a boost in the new HS book and that alone will make it worthwhile to field him, he can hold his own now with MA lvl1 and CC19.

[Pierzasty]

CC19

21.

[Section9]

O-Yoroi is getting MA skills, not just high CC?!?

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Your friend needs some low-point troops to leave space for the big guns.

[CoveredInFish]

Yes, like i always wished for, o-yoroi finally is a martial artist. CC-Sectorial has cc-Tag. Yeah!

[Arachas]

Yeah not really in it for the O-Yoroi. That's a model I feel could use an update.

The new ISS troopers look like proper proxies for the cheerleaders though.