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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by det » August 11th, 2014, 1:20 pm

Section9 wrote:One sneaky option for CB might be to 'stealth-resculpt' some models, and simply change to the new HMG when the current molds wear out and need to be remade anyway. Say, the Keisotsu, Wu Ming, Hsien, and Guifeng.


that'd be great IMHO!! I'd love it! :lol:
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by McNamara » August 11th, 2014, 1:43 pm

It be great, but I highly doubt it. Until now they didn't do anything remotely like this, AFAIK. The Tomcats, and Celestial Guard Box, seem to go a bit in that direct, but its still something else.
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Lord Sessadore » August 17th, 2014, 3:52 pm

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Profile! And apparently not all the options yet either. Looks pretty sweet, and dirt cheap despite lack of Frenzy/Impetuous!

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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by MittenNinja » August 17th, 2014, 7:35 pm

The profile is more or less in line with what I was expecting, although I was not expecting a BS13. I'll take a sub 40pt automed HMG HI all day!
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Scorch » August 17th, 2014, 8:05 pm

I hope to see the Invincible Army's starter set soon! My call: 3 Zu Yong, 1 ShangJi Spitfire, 1 Yan Huo HRMC and a Tiger. Me wants them!
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by MittenNinja » August 17th, 2014, 8:24 pm

Scorch wrote:I hope to see the Invincible Army's starter set soon! My call: 3 Zu Yong, 1 ShangJi Spitfire, 1 Yan Huo HRMC and a Tiger. Me wants them!

That was my initial thought too, but I want to say that someone said the IA sectorial starter would be 100% HI. Which would mean the tiger wouldnt make the cut.
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Scorch » August 17th, 2014, 8:27 pm

MittenNinja wrote:
Scorch wrote:I hope to see the Invincible Army's starter set soon! My call: 3 Zu Yong, 1 ShangJi Spitfire, 1 Yan Huo HRMC and a Tiger. Me wants them!

That was my initial thought too, but I want to say that someone said the IA sectorial starter would be 100% HI. Which would mean the tiger wouldnt make the cut.

The redesign doesn't look like like MI anymore. Might be an extra option, or a complete revamp of the old tigers.
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by MittenNinja » August 17th, 2014, 8:32 pm

Scorch wrote:
MittenNinja wrote:
Scorch wrote:I hope to see the Invincible Army's starter set soon! My call: 3 Zu Yong, 1 ShangJi Spitfire, 1 Yan Huo HRMC and a Tiger. Me wants them!

That was my initial thought too, but I want to say that someone said the IA sectorial starter would be 100% HI. Which would mean the tiger wouldnt make the cut.

The redesign doesn't look like like MI anymore. Might be an extra option, or a complete revamp of the old tigers.


Maybe, but from the looks of things the upper thighs dont appear to be servo armor, just pants. It might still be MI. I hope im wrong, because AD HI would be killer.
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Scorch » August 17th, 2014, 8:35 pm

MittenNinja wrote:Maybe, but from the looks of things the upper thighs dont appear to be servo armor, just pants. It might still be MI. I hope im wrong, because AD HI would be killer.

You got a point there.. We will see. I haven't got a clue what else they will put in there. Hac Tao?
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by MittenNinja » August 17th, 2014, 8:38 pm

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MittenNinja wrote:Maybe, but from the looks of things the upper thighs dont appear to be servo armor, just pants. It might still be MI. I hope im wrong, because AD HI would be killer.

You got a point there.. We will see. I haven't got a clue what else they will put in there. Hac Tao?

They do have the new Hac Tao concpet art, so that wouldnt surprise me at all. 3x ZuYong, 1x ShangJi, 1x YanHau, 1x HacTao. I'd buy that. That also fits with the 3x line troop, 1x Standard HI, 2x specialist formula they use.
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Scorch » August 17th, 2014, 8:38 pm

MittenNinja wrote:
Scorch wrote:
MittenNinja wrote:Maybe, but from the looks of things the upper thighs dont appear to be servo armor, just pants. It might still be MI. I hope im wrong, because AD HI would be killer.

You got a point there.. We will see. I haven't got a clue what else they will put in there. Hac Tao?

They do have the new Hac Tao concpet art, so that wouldnt surprise me at all. 3x ZuYong, 1x ShangJi, 1x YanHau, 1x HacTao. I'd buy that.


You'd be finished for a full 200 point army I think! xD
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Lord Sessadore » August 17th, 2014, 8:45 pm

Scorch wrote:
MittenNinja wrote:
Scorch wrote:I hope to see the Invincible Army's starter set soon! My call: 3 Zu Yong, 1 ShangJi Spitfire, 1 Yan Huo HRMC and a Tiger. Me wants them!

That was my initial thought too, but I want to say that someone said the IA sectorial starter would be 100% HI. Which would mean the tiger wouldnt make the cut.

The redesign doesn't look like like MI anymore. Might be an extra option, or a complete revamp of the old tigers.

I would disagree, I think the Tiger is still MI. If you take off the jump pack he's not that bulky, he doesn't really have cyber muscles (just one cord at each hip, knee, and ankle instead of the usual full thigh/butt, shoulders, etc...), and the torso armour looks similar to the Raiden. Does look like too much armour for ARM 2, but then there's some of the recent Morats... ;)

That said, I wouldn't mind being wrong. I'd love HI drop troops in Yu Jing. :)

Edit: super duper ninja'd. I'm slow. :(
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by MittenNinja » August 17th, 2014, 8:50 pm

Lord Sessadore wrote:Edit: super duper ninja'd. I'm slow. :(

At least you were ninja'd by a ninja :ninja:
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Lord Sessadore » August 17th, 2014, 8:51 pm

MittenNinja wrote:
Scorch wrote:
MittenNinja wrote:Maybe, but from the looks of things the upper thighs dont appear to be servo armor, just pants. It might still be MI. I hope im wrong, because AD HI would be killer.

You got a point there.. We will see. I haven't got a clue what else they will put in there. Hac Tao?

They do have the new Hac Tao concpet art, so that wouldnt surprise me at all. 3x ZuYong, 1x ShangJi, 1x YanHau, 1x HacTao. I'd buy that. That also fits with the 3x line troop, 1x Standard HI, 2x specialist formula they use.


I would definitely buy this. :)
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Section9 » August 17th, 2014, 10:20 pm

MittenNinja wrote:3x ZuYong, 1x ShangJi, 1x YanHau, 1x HacTao. I'd buy that. That also fits with the 3x line troop, 1x Standard HI, 2x specialist formula they use.

Damn, that's NASTY! :twisted: :twisted: I'm rough-guessing that at approximately 210 points...

Would certainly teach those space apes how to kick ass and take names!
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Scorch » August 17th, 2014, 11:02 pm

Section9 wrote:
MittenNinja wrote:3x ZuYong, 1x ShangJi, 1x YanHau, 1x HacTao. I'd buy that. That also fits with the 3x line troop, 1x Standard HI, 2x specialist formula they use.

Damn, that's NASTY! :twisted: :twisted: I'm rough-guessing that at approximately 210 points...

Would certainly teach those space apes how to kick ass and take names!


All those poor kids that will buy 2 starters and go up against each other.. facing 5 HI, with one TO camoed and the other one carrying a HRMC... :twisted:
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Hero of Man » August 18th, 2014, 12:16 am

I'm really psyched, though for me its the Double Breaker Pistols and Kinematica 1 that really sell me.

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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Lord Sessadore » August 18th, 2014, 12:39 am

Yeah, the double Breaker Pistols is actually pretty awesome. B3 DAM12 Viral is almost always going to be better than a combi within 8". Not to mention being a very respectable ARO for people trying to get up close to the HMG. And the ML having a shotgun as well is pretty cool too - BS 19 within 8". O.o
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by MittenNinja » August 19th, 2014, 11:12 am

So i watched the full video from the gencon seminar, and it appears that the ZuYong will not be getting a 2nd edition profile. It makes sense when you take into account that the n3 rulebook will be out in a matter of months, but I was kind of hoping to get these guys on the table sooner than that. I guess I can always use them to proxy a hac tao...
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Scorch » August 19th, 2014, 11:35 am

MittenNinja wrote:So i watched the full video from the gencon seminar, and it appears that the ZuYong will not be getting a 2nd edition profile. It makes sense when you take into account that the n3 rulebook will be out in a matter of months, but I was kind of hoping to get these guys on the table sooner than that. I guess I can always use them to proxy a hac tao...


Oh, i hadn't understood they were off limits for 2nd edition play. :O
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by MittenNinja » August 19th, 2014, 11:37 am

Scorch wrote:
MittenNinja wrote:So i watched the full video from the gencon seminar, and it appears that the ZuYong will not be getting a 2nd edition profile. It makes sense when you take into account that the n3 rulebook will be out in a matter of months, but I was kind of hoping to get these guys on the table sooner than that. I guess I can always use them to proxy a hac tao...


Oh, i hadn't understood they were off limits for 2nd edition play. :O

Yeah, one of the guys asked Carlos if there would be a 2e profile, and he said no.
Using the n3 profile in 2e play wouldn't be balanced methinks.
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Scorch » August 19th, 2014, 11:38 am

Nope. Kotail is out of the question as well than. Okay. Luckily we have the Bolts and Nikoul. ;)
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Poseidal » August 19th, 2014, 11:39 am

MittenNinja wrote:So i watched the full video from the gencon seminar, and it appears that the ZuYong will not be getting a 2nd edition profile. It makes sense when you take into account that the n3 rulebook will be out in a matter of months, but I was kind of hoping to get these guys on the table sooner than that. I guess I can always use them to proxy a hac tao...

Aw man! I was looking forward to this guy.

Might proxy for Shang Ji Spitfire since the new HMGs aren't common at the moment...
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Section9 » August 19th, 2014, 7:11 pm

MittenNinja wrote:So i watched the full video from the gencon seminar, and it appears that the ZuYong will not be getting a 2nd edition profile. It makes sense when you take into account that the n3 rulebook will be out in a matter of months, but I was kind of hoping to get these guys on the table sooner than that. I guess I can always use them to proxy a hac tao...

Bummer!

So when the heck is N3 supposed to ship? I'm not even seeing any pre-order rumors...
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by MittenNinja » August 19th, 2014, 7:26 pm

Section9 wrote:
MittenNinja wrote:So i watched the full video from the gencon seminar, and it appears that the ZuYong will not be getting a 2nd edition profile. It makes sense when you take into account that the n3 rulebook will be out in a matter of months, but I was kind of hoping to get these guys on the table sooner than that. I guess I can always use them to proxy a hac tao...

Bummer!

So when the heck is N3 supposed to ship? I'm not even seeing any pre-order rumors...

They're hoping to have it ready for black Friday.
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Durandal » August 20th, 2014, 12:51 am

Well the guys as CB have already said it will be 100% HI in the box. My guess is it will be a pricey one like the Morat box (in money terms).

3x ZuYong, 1x Yan Huo HMC, 1x DaoFei, 1x Shang Ji Spitfire (or maybe Hacker)

DaoFei seems like a shoe-in since it has always been described as the force recon for the Invincible army. It also packs the box with unique Yu Jingy goodness.

I'm expecting the Hac Tao resculpt to be in the White Banner starter, myself. It's a "white mask" that doesn't have any explicit ties to the Invincible Army (though it may end up in the sectorial itself).

The ZuYong itself seems amazing.

Though its low PH and kinematica don't synch up well, it at least keeps it cheap (along with saving all those points on CC bumps that we wont need).

In vanilla the support version will make excellent budget assault units. I can see a lot of folks taking the HMG with auto-medkit since it is hell at all ranges save for extreme and it will be tough to put down. All for the price of other folk's mid-range standard HI.

That is a damn good deal. If the rest of our HI comes down in price a bit, they should really facilitate 10-man lists using nothing but HI and remotes.
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by MittenNinja » August 20th, 2014, 3:29 pm

Durandal wrote:
3x ZuYong, 1x Yan Huo HMC, 1x DaoFei, 1x Shang Ji Spitfire (or maybe Hacker)

The ZuYong itself seems amazing.

In vanilla the support version will make excellent budget assault units. I can see a lot of folks taking the HMG with auto-medkit since it is hell at all ranges save for extreme and it will be tough to put down. All for the price of other folk's mid-range standard HI.

I think I would actually prefer a shang ji hacker over a spitfire sculpt. I would use it more often, but honestly I'll take either/both.

The Zu Yong is pretty damn solid. We haven't even seen all the profile options yet and I would expect some other specialists in there too ( engineer maybe? ). And I definitely plan to use that automedkit hmg to be a major thorn in my opponent's side.
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Section9 » August 20th, 2014, 11:02 pm

MittenNinja wrote:
Durandal wrote:3x ZuYong, 1x Yan Huo HMC, 1x DaoFei, 1x Shang Ji Spitfire (or maybe Hacker)

The ZuYong itself seems amazing.

In vanilla the support version will make excellent budget assault units. I can see a lot of folks taking the HMG with auto-medkit since it is hell at all ranges save for extreme and it will be tough to put down. All for the price of other folk's mid-range standard HI.

I think I would actually prefer a shang ji hacker over a spitfire sculpt. I would use it more often, but honestly I'll take either/both.

I'd also prefer the Hacker, since I've converted a spitfire and multirifle. That would give me almost all the profiles.

The Zu Yong is pretty damn solid. We haven't even seen all the profile options yet and I would expect some other specialists in there too ( engineer maybe? ). And I definitely plan to use that automedkit hmg to be a major thorn in my opponent's side.

I'd about kill for an HI engineer, and Paramedic would seem to fit based on all the other Line Infantry models (heck, even the Tigers have a paramedic!)
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by McNamara » August 21st, 2014, 11:53 am

Durandal wrote:DaoFei seems like a shoe-in since it has always been described as the force recon for the Invincible army. It also packs the box with unique Yu Jingy goodness.

I'm expecting the Hac Tao resculpt to be in the White Banner starter, myself. It's a "white mask" that doesn't have any explicit ties to the Invincible Army (though it may end up in the sectorial itself).


I am not to sure about this. The new unit batches they showed at the Interplanetary, did show the Daofei under White Banner, with a logo pretty much enforcing it and looking just like the Guilang.

The Hactao, was listed under the general units, and had a red and white logo, while the Invincibles all have red and yellow.

Since unit badges are one of the best indicators of a Sectorial, that would make it pretty unlikely that the Daofei will show up in the Invincible Army, and rather impossible to be in the Starter (see Ninja and IS, or Aleph units in other Sectorials).

What it could mean is that the Hactao will show up in both.
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Re: Zu Yong Invincible Pics

by Errhile » August 25th, 2014, 2:40 pm

Well, the 2ed profile is up in the Army 4.0.
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