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Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by Errhile » July 15th, 2014, 4:16 pm

This topic was migrated from CB forum.

See, I'm OK with counters / markers for status things. But when there are physical objects being placed on table, not so much.

So, why not make them miniature, 3-D objects?

Scratchbuilding Deployables
with electronic parts


I. Mines
II. E/Maulers
III. Deployable Repeaters


I. Mines

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The first and easiest are mines. I took some spare round bases (since I use scenic MAS bases for my minis, I have loads of spare regular bases), glue some cheap transistors onto them (got them from a electric store). Given the nature of Infinity mines, I assumed they are capable of turning around and generating a Claymore-like effect. Well, the transistor seems to just fit the bill... just bend the legs and put them thorugh holes drilled in the base:

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Note, should anyone try to go a shorter way and simply superglue the transistors on top of the bases - that was the original solution I used, and it proved t be a bad one. Contact area was too small, and the "mines" broke off the bases leaving me with that:
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That's how they look with spray-on white undercoat.

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And painted, ready to be deployed.
As you can see, simply altering paint scheme and label can turn them into different mine type (I don't have Mono mines available for any of my armies, therefore I didn't made them).


II. E/Maulers

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These are a tiny bit more complicated.

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I took 3mm LEDs (cheapest, no matter the specs) from an electronics store (actually the same I bought my mines, I mean - transistors at :P).
Also, nails (1,4 x 40mm, brass-coated) - I considered using tailoring pins, as they are 0,7mm thick, but they bend way too easily.
And naturally, spare regular bases.

Plus Superglue and green stuff.

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Compared the nails aginst a miniature and cut them down.
Cut the legs off the LEDs (I figured they'd be too delicate to use). Unfortunately couldn't have cut them flat at the base.
Attached to the nail heads with greenstuff and glue.

Filled slots in the bases with greenstuff too (not shown).
Allowed it to cure.

Yes, these are laundry clips, I use them as general hold-em-all.

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Drilled holes in the green stuff and glued the nails in.

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That's how high these are.

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Primed and ready to be painted!



III. Deployable Repaters


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Exactly the same technique as E/Maulers, and a bit easier to do.

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As you can see, they are based on exactly the same idea as the E/Maulers were.
The only difference is that I used small condensers instead of LEDs (they lack legs, because I scavenged them from a dead computer mouse, and had to clip the legs in the process).

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Glue the condensers on the nails. I hadn't cut the nails down yet at this stage, because I needed to compare them against a miniature's height as complete devices.

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Take some bases with slots filled with greenstuff, drill the holes and glue the Repeaters in.
You could cut the masts down to size before gluing them into the base (as I did), or after it - make them stick over the base as much as you need, and then remove any excess from under the base. However, this could result in some leftover requiring filing it down.
...on afterthought, better cut them down first!

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Bang, ready for painting!
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by Hero of Man » July 22nd, 2014, 3:47 am

Niiice. Definitely considering stealing these.
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by coleslaw » July 22nd, 2014, 7:38 am

Still like these! Should really make some!
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by Errhile » July 22nd, 2014, 8:35 am

By all means, please do! And share the pics :)

I wonder if any of my armies would get Drop Bears, as I'd have to invent a way of making these too. Which would be an interesting challenge - currently, I've reached the end of need for deployables, y'know.
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by mikem91 » July 24th, 2014, 5:23 pm

Those are really quite nice.

I wonder if it would be practical to not paint over the LED and sneak a power cell into the base?
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by Errhile » July 24th, 2014, 7:06 pm

Personally I doubt. Back in the old forum there was such an idea suggested, and rejected as "not gonna work". But alas, I'm not an expert on electronics. Maybe you'd give it a try? :)

Personally, I think I'd be highly annoyed by a LED on my table!
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by Section9 » August 21st, 2014, 7:20 pm

mikem91 wrote:I wonder if it would be practical to not paint over the LED and sneak a power cell into the base?

Certainly DO-able. I'm not sure about practical, since you need to have a more-or-less constant, perfect voltage for LEDs. At the very least, this requires a resistor worked into the circuit, which takes space in the bottom of the base.

You'd probably have to replace the metal nail with something like a broom bristle or some other heavyweight extruded plastic (string trimmer line, maybe), just to make things work electronically. And then you'd need to be able to pull the battery or rig a switch. Actually, you might be able to use either a thin piece of brass tube, if you can make sure there is good insulation between the leg going down the inside and the brass tube. I'd use the brass tube as the other conductor, like how metal flashlights work.

But I'd need to fuss with that for a while to make the LEDs work before I tried to mount it on a base. hrm... green LED for a repeater and blue/white for E/Mauler?
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by Errhile » August 21st, 2014, 8:04 pm

I guess wrapping the leg in silicon tape (the thin one the plumbers use) could do as the insulation.
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by Alphast » August 24th, 2014, 11:11 pm

Great ideas for the mines. I'm gonna steal that. :ninja:
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by Errhile » August 26th, 2014, 8:32 am

You can't steal what is freely given away :P
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by mikem91 » August 29th, 2014, 7:42 pm

I started trying some prototypes and have learned some ways to not accomplish my goal.

I was using 25mm slotta bases, a 25mm washer, then a LED and a watch battery. I'd hope to use the washer as the conductor to the "top" of the battery (mounted upside down) and then have the other lead curled against the side of the battery. Getting a good connection was problematic. It sort of worked.

I think for the next iteration, I'll get some sockets for CR2032 batteries and dress those up as a base and see if that'll work better.
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Re: Scratchbuild deployables - Mines, Repeaters, E-Maulers

by Errhile » December 16th, 2014, 5:19 pm

Seems I'll have to invent some more:
- Tinbots I have already an idea for: a computer chip (any) will be a perfect Tinbot indeed.
- Sniffer. No idea yet.

Anything I missed? Drop Bear is essentially an uncamoflaged Mine, so can be represented by a standard Scratchbuildt Deployable mine marker.
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