Is there the possibility of a 'Like this' button?

[Cervantes3773]

Do we want to take the power away from the users and give it to posts? Won't they turn against us?

I'm sure we can make them adhere to The Three Laws.

I can't even make Pierzasty adhere to The Three Laws! I have little hope of making the users.

I was referring to the posts.

[Magno]

Nay to a "like" button.
I've no issue with creating a feedback system, but not Facebook style.

I like the old Karma system, because it wasn't a simple click, it was an explanation of why you like it.

Maybe we can come up with something more creative and thematic than a "like" button. Something that shows a little more info than just "I'm liked a lot".
Little bars or hexs in different colors, colors representing why they've been "liked".
Blue for general chit chat
Red for rules questions
Green for terrain and hobbling
Purple for painting
Etc..
That way when folks see a person's karma or whatever they know a little more about how they contribute.

[kidterminal]

Nay to a "like" button.
I've no issue with creating a feedback system, but not Facebook style.

I like the old Karma system, because it wasn't a simple click, it was an explanation of why you like it.

Maybe we can come up with something more creative and thematic than a "like" button. Something that shows a little more info than just "I'm liked a lot".
Little bars or hexs in different colors, colors representing why they've been "liked".
Blue for general chit chat
Red for rules questions
Green for terrain and hobbling
Purple for painting
Etc..
That way when folks see a person's karma or whatever they know a little more about how they contribute.

That's a nice creative idea. I have no idea yet if we can even do something like that yet. Its more informative and takes the facebook friends mentality out of it.

[Oreet]

That's a nice creative idea. I have no idea yet if we can even do something like that yet. Its more informative and takes the facebook friends mentality out of it.

With enough time and programming knowhow, you can do almost anything on a website.

[kidterminal]

I will look into it. But first lets see if we can flesh this idea out a little more.

[Oreet]

As long as there are hexagons, the idea will be solid, whatever shape it takes (as long as it's a 6-sided polygon shape).

But I do think some sort of feedback system would be nice. Not everyone here knows everyone, so if someone ask a rules question, it's good to know that if IJW answers it, he's a very trusted source for rules questions.

[kidterminal]

So are you suggesting different colors for levels knowledge; say yellow for slight, purple for supreme, or a "he/she knows what their talking about" badge?

[Cervantes3773]

Sure, Magno and IJW would get the following badges - Master Painter, Master Craftsman, Rules Guru. I'd get the "Been around a long time and am usually reliable" and the "Has a ton of minis, never paints and don't you dare tell me to" badges.

[Levitas]

I'd limit to 4, as its get overly colorful.

Have four hexagons under each post, you click one color if you think the post is worthy. As in red if it answered a rule query very well etc.

Blue for upstanding member/well said
Red for rules guru
Green for terrain and hobby
Purple for painting

Then under the avatars you have space for the color hexes again, but these have numbers in which represent the amount of clicks for each color. So at a glance you can see where a users strengths be. Like top trumps

I did this really quick...

[Magno]

Something like that yeah. It's a start and could work for now. Accomodate it for larger numbers maybe by putting a silver/gold band around it when they hit 25/ 50 likes.

[Pierzasty]

Which means nothing, as I can make 6 alternative accounts and inflate my rep anyway. Without comments, the reputation system remains useless in my eyes.

Also, is there a "turn off rep system for me" option that makes the whole thing invisible for that particular user? No annoying likes, no rep badges, no topic stars, no +rep notifications, just a normal forum?

[sepsitorizedmook]

To be honest I found the whole rating system on the main site to be a bit pointless. The rep system one was a nice way of saying thanks/hey to people but fueled some unnecessary ugliness. The like system was kind of meaningless unless you knew where those likes were coming from, which was often a bit random anyway.

Most importantly, who cares? If you need someone to have a bunch of numbers or stars under their name before you're willing to believe them or deal with them kindly then get off the boards. If you actually want to know something about someone you should read their posts or get in contact with them instead of going with this abstract rating system like they were a piece of second-hand electrical equipment.

[Cervantes3773]

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Most importantly, who cares? If you need someone to have a bunch of numbers or stars under their name before you're willing to believe them or deal with them kindly then get off the boards. If you actually want to know something about someone you should read their posts or get in contact with them instead of going with this abstract rating system like they were a piece of second-hand electrical equipment.

There was a time, and perhaps there still is, where PsychoticStorm, Magno, me, IJW, etc would answer a rules question and the asker's response would be "well how do you know? I want to to hear from CB themselves." So then we'd quote rules, Interruptor's posts and explain "you know, we've been here a while and kind of know our stuff" and they would respond with "well how do I know this "Interruptor" is actually with CB and how do I know you actually know your stuff?"

A rep system doesn't solve that entirely, but it helps.

I've seen thee rep systems on forums -
1) a +1/-1 on each post with no accountability
2) a +1 button on each post (or a like button)
3) a karma system where you rated the user and could offer an explanation why

1) Resulted in a lot of petty and masturbatory ratings (e.g. two friends upping each other to the max each day, spiteful -1s because 1nf1n1ty42 is a jerk, and even in one instance I witnessed, a moderator give himself a +1 on each and every one of his posts (only mods could vote on their own posts)).
2) Results in a less... specific trail of why things are liked, but removes the pettiness. It isn't as helpful as a tool, but does eliminate needless +1/"this" posts.
3) Well, just about all of us saw this one. Apparently the International forum was better than the Spanish one (where it got removed before ours did), but I think it caused even more petty interactions. Worse, it wasn't used consistently, so while I might have personally restricted myself to giving each user a +1 no more than once per month, except for exceptional reasons, and after a while stopped giving out negative rep, others used it to their own standards. People piled on for negative reasons and never piled on for positive reasons (unless it was to counteract negative pile-on (pylon?)).

Additionally, even option 1 results in similar use to option 3 (e.g. a single post might be rated positively once or twice, while a "bad" posts is rated negatively 10 times... because people don't like the poster's opinion).

I think my favorite part about options 1 and 2, which was possible in option 3 if you knew The Secret Way, is that the individual posts are marked - if a post is deleted, the associated ratings leave. The official forum does have a way to see the most liked posts and a user's liked posts, so if you really want to know why Magno has such a high rating, you can find out for yourself. It won't show it all because of legacy ratings, but it's good enough.

Because option 2 reduces the use of trivial posts and doesn't leave room for petty use, it is my preferred "rep system" IF there is going to be one.

If there's not, that's fine too.

[Magno]

Rep systems work on some professional forums.
International forums for Quality engineering, it's very important to know just how reputable that person is and how they got it. We break down the rep by type.
The high rep guys then take on stewardship responsibility on helping newcomers. The system works quite well.
Unaccounted for "likes" is a little bogus, and transparent karma still functioned well IMO because you couldn't just blast someone without having the accuser face you.

[Cervantes3773]

Rep systems work on some professional forums.
International forums for Quality engineering, it's very important to know just how reputable that person is and how they got it. We break down the rep by type.
The high rep guys then take on stewardship responsibility on helping newcomers. The system works quite well.
Unaccounted for "likes" is a little bogus, and transparent karma still functioned well IMO because you couldn't just blast someone without having the accuser face you.

Cervantes > Magno
-1 - you're a jerk

Magno > Cervantes
-1 - you're a jerk, too

Cervantes > Magno
-1 - you can't neg me because I negged you, jerk

Rando1 > Cervantes
+1 - not a jerk

Rando2 > Magno
+1 - Coolest not a jerk ever

Rando1 > Rando2
-1 - You can't +1 someone when they are a jerk! -1 for supporting a jerk

Rando2 > Rando1
-1 - Whatever, jerk.

Randos3, 4, and 5 > Magno
+1 - Definitely not a jerk

Randos6, 7, 8 > Cervantes
+1 - Coolest dude ever

Yeah, it worked great for Infinity.

[Oreet]

Oreet > Any Nomad Player
+1 because you're awesome

Oreet > Any non-Nomad Player
-1 because I'm awesome