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Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 18th, 2013, 12:33 am
by Scarecrow
My first model painted in quite a while. Hoping to get more of these guys done over the next couple of weeks. I have no delusions about these being awesome paint jobs like Maru's or Magno's, etc, but i'm happy with it.

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Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 18th, 2013, 3:55 am
by valthonis
They are fantastic!

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 18th, 2013, 11:18 am
by Pacific
Really nice job, very neat brushwork!

Think the skin tone looks good, and contrasts nicely with the colour of the armour.

Nice to see a bit of attention put on the base as well, an area often overlooked!

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 18th, 2013, 12:40 pm
by Maru
grey armor parts lacks final highlight to ad blick to the mini - check my tutorial about gun

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 18th, 2013, 1:16 pm
by Crushar
That guy looks awesome sir!

I think the color choice is perfect!

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 18th, 2013, 11:18 pm
by Scarecrow
Thanks for the feedback.

Just to calrify regarding the quality, im justing aiming for a quick and simple paintjob given that im not a painting guru. Ive also only got minimal time to paint the models, so trying to keep things to about 1.5-2 hours max per model.

Essentially the paintjob is prime, basecoat whole mini with airbrush in a Dark Seagreen/Black mix, then paint armor panels green grey, and highlight them with bonewhite. The dark grey just gets a pretty weak highlight of straight dark seagreen, except the gun gets harsher highlights and yellow glow. Buckles are mechrite orange, with a mechrite orange/sun yellow mix. The skin on this test model was done too many times for me to remember exactly :(, so im just going to have to wing it now

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 19th, 2013, 12:32 am
by valthonis
Scarecrow wrote:Thanks for the feedback.

Just to calrify regarding the quality, im justing aiming for a quick and simple paintjob given that im not a painting guru...


And...this is where I started to hate you... :mrgreen:

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 19th, 2013, 2:23 am
by Maru
and i whant from you 1 more step in shading - pure white - thini dots of it to get this shini effect

belive or not but :
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thous minis by Raffaele "Picster" Picca
looks like they look thx to this white dots - thats addicional 30 sec of work (for not "pro" a 5 min) but difrence is huge
if you whant i may get your photos and add thous blicks in corect places to show you wher and what and effect so yu will decide by yourselwe "it is worthy"

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 19th, 2013, 4:41 am
by valthonis
Holy crap! Those are Fusiliers! I've never seen them look that good!

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 19th, 2013, 5:18 am
by Maru
eny one other 1 paint them in Masseffect theme ??

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 19th, 2013, 8:11 am
by Scarecrow
Painted a couple more Kameel today.... They look a bit derpy, however i spent way to long on them... like 7-8 hours for the two of them and they still look pretty poo, so ill likely just leave them as is...

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Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 19th, 2013, 1:13 pm
by Crushar
There is no "poo" in that picture sir!!! They look great and have a great unified fell to them!

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 19th, 2013, 1:57 pm
by Maru
like 7-8 hours for the two of them and they still look pretty poo,


how a bout a Black & white chelenge ??
this will show you why minis don't Pop instade poo - there is rely 1 error you make - but is "invisible" as long as colors are involved
get mini - paint B/W - you will c this error - as i c him without changing your photo to grey scale :D

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 19th, 2013, 11:20 pm
by Scarecrow
Thanks for the tips Maru.

I know that the highlighting isn't the best, nor is it realistic, i just chose to edge highlight as a way to bring everything out as quickly as i could.

I would try a black & white challenge, but unfortunately i dont have the time, or the skill to try.

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 20th, 2013, 1:23 am
by Maru
i just chose to edge highlight as a way to bring everything out as quickly as i could.


ye nothing bad about it
but - this tech lack something
and that something is final touch on yours minis - it is realy addicional 2 minutes for each of them to make them "complete"
i may present it in form of digital overpainting to visualize you the missing stage

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 20th, 2013, 2:22 am
by Scarecrow
If its not too much trouble, id really appreciate it Maru!

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 20th, 2013, 3:38 am
by Crushar
Maru wrote:
like 7-8 hours for the two of them and they still look pretty poo,


how a bout a Black & white chelenge ??
this will show you why minis don't Pop instade poo - there is rely 1 error you make - but is "invisible" as long as colors are involved
get mini - paint B/W - you will c this error - as i c him without changing your photo to grey scale :D



I think it helped me bro. If you can find the time it is worth it.

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 20th, 2013, 2:09 pm
by Lampyridae
I should try this challenge too... I have a spare Alguacil.

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 20th, 2013, 4:19 pm
by Maru
so here we go :)
leady first :P
as you c i turned you photo to grey scale (this grey scale photo checks over all contrast of mini not including color contrast )
and is not so bad - just "flat" at least armor don't meld with cloths
ok look below i just add white spots in "special places" over armor and gun - this made armor to Pop up - making impression it is completly different material then cloths -0 look how much more "eye candy" it looks now
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below foto present 1:1 how it looks
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how to make that - well tip of the brush + white paint
but not to thick paint - it have to be in a state like "i will paint eyes now" so you are able to get precise dot
- and just make small dots of white in corect places
thous dots imitate rays of light that bounc of the surface
all Awesomnes of Picster Work is all about this effect

but how about backpacks ?>
exacly same descryption :) - just place white small dots in correct place
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so what is with this Greyscale painting and B/W chelenge - well in GS it is easest way to c real contrast controary to "fake" one composed from colors
human eye is made in a way that if it is a dey it c colors but after dark it swiches back to "original" and c light contrast - all effective predators use light / shadow contrast instade of colors contrast that is actualy usable only to track red objectives (red = fruit = sugar + vitamins)
btw VS light / shadow vision a 80% natural camuflage is ineffective controary to human color vision - we may miss a elephant on mady area - wich is obviously visible as soon we change photo to grey scale
all enchanted vision devices use Grey scale ... and solders in "bad uniforms" just "shine" like a huge fireflays when thous in good one made with mind in light contrast - meld same good ad with just human eye

BTW - don't paint your car black - you just ask your selve for car crash
human eye react different to different colors - red is "fastest" information about it will travel to the brain and back to the body in below 0.06 sec - so mostly instant (it is about 30 cm in car with 60 km /h )
but what will happend if we c black car - information will travel 0.2 sec .... same car speed 2 m to react
black color got lowest priority in information network in human brain and is transfered as a last - so black object is the last that human brain will react to - this have no matter in "normal" world but if you are 120 km/h
- well count how fast you will c and react to red / green / blue car and how slow to black :P

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 20th, 2013, 9:26 pm
by Scarecrow
Maru, that looks very awesome! Thanks! I think even i can manage that! Ill try and have a crack tonight if i get the chance, though im hesitant to try it on others models not yet marked like you have done, as i reckon ill likely go too far with dots :P.

But i guess i can only try

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 21st, 2013, 12:25 pm
by Scarecrow
Some WIP shots of my Sakiel. Still a fair bit to do, but coming along ok.

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Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 21st, 2013, 12:40 pm
by ork56
I was not keen on the white dots on the fusiliers, maybe because they are so dark overall, but the Tohaa example which Maru has mocked up looks very good.

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 21st, 2013, 2:30 pm
by Maru
Crush, Kill, TAPAS !!
Sakiem missing final highlights :P

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 22nd, 2013, 12:21 am
by Scarecrow
White dots are forthcoming :).

This guy is currently missing lots of highlights :P.

I was going to finish this guy off to the point of white dots, then do all 4 painted minis at the same time.

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 22nd, 2013, 12:31 am
by kidterminal
Sounds reasonable.

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 22nd, 2013, 9:19 pm
by Scarecrow
Finished up the Sakiel. I did as Maru suggested, and applied the white dots to the armoured sections. Im happy with how he turned out!

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Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 22nd, 2013, 9:55 pm
by Athanadros
Awesome work! You really took Maru's advice and applied it well. Keep up the good work.

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 22nd, 2013, 10:10 pm
by kidterminal
Wow the white dots make all the difference. I don't want to hear anymore claims that you can't paint Colin!

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 23rd, 2013, 1:17 am
by Scarecrow
kidterminal wrote:Wow the white dots make all the difference. I don't want to hear anymore claims that you can't paint Colin!


I can paint in the sense that im capable of putting paint on a model, but beyond that, id call my stuff tabletop quality at best.

Re: Scarecrow's Tohaa

PostPosted: May 23rd, 2013, 4:56 am
by Maru
i should make tutorial - "How to paint white dots" and charge 5 $ for each copy :P